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Not really, new Arch release [1] is more interesting for me, the only thing I like about Debian is "continue installation remotely ..." all the rest is just typical fragmented Linux distro.
[1] http://www.archlinux.org/news/434/
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Yes, me!
It's still my favourite OS - it's stable, the packages are new enough for my demands and up to now I haven't found a package management system that deals better with my needs than Apt (which of course might be different for different users). Quote:
If the applications are to old for your needs, you can give -testing or even -sid a try (the two other Debian "flavours"). I have run -sid for several years on my desktop. And if one is a little bit cautious, it will (almost) work without problems. |
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Very much so! That's what we run on 95% of our servers, and 100% of our Linux desktops. And we have a lot of Linux desktops in this school district. All of our elementary school labs (~50) are running diskless Debian, 6 of our secondary schools are diskless Debian everywhere (including admin stations), the other 3 secondary are slated for switching this summer, and the rest of the elem stations are in the process of being switched over. So we follow Debian quite closely.
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What would be nice, is if a distro came out that clearly separated the "base" OS from the "applications", in such a way that you can install new apps without installing a new OS release (and no, "backports" repos don't cut it). There's no reason I should have to upgrade my kernel and core software in order to run KDE 4.2. |
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Phoenix, I think they call that the Free Berkely Software Distrubtion (FreeBSD), but it's not a Linux distro :-)
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>I would really like a more FreeBSD-like Linux distro to arise and take over the Linux world.
Slack & Arch, but the latter lacks the quality (compared to *BSD) and Slack the comfort of the ports (well there is pkgsrc but who cares ;-)). Ubuntu will take over the Linux world, but ... okay no flame
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> What would be nice, is if a distro came out that clearly separated the "base" OS from the "applications", in such a way that you can install new apps without installing a new OS release (and no, "backports" repos don't cut it). Sounds like FreeBSD with a Linux kernel. [/offtopic]I enjoy reading the stories from your work (school). Last edited by ephemera; 21st February 2009 at 12:41 PM. |
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What about SluckBuilds? That seems like a very primitive ports infrastructure. Could it be fixed into full blown ports system? I honestly thing that without proper packaging system Slack with all its qualities is just a hobbyist system. The number of various Linux distros without any serious goals despite the fact that there are only couple real distros (CentOS, Debian, Slackware) is so repulsive. Even distros like CentOS and Debian are trying to cater everything to everybody. CentOS is probably the best since in my understanding is focused on server market supporting only couple architectures. That looks serious at least. I am a firm believer that all applications should be run natively. It is a sad reality that there are far more commercial applications for Linux than for any flavor of BSD. So I guess that one sometimes can not avoid using Linux but man I wish there were little bit more commercial applications for BSD. |
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Debian GNU/kFreeBSD or: Debian GNU/NetBSD |
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down as you can not just take a peace of BSD licensed software and release it as GPL. Both projects were officially halted couple years ago but it seems that some people will not learn their lesson until somebody takes them to court. Last edited by Oko; 22nd February 2009 at 06:09 AM. |
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Slackware is probably the oldest remaining distro, if anything else is close, I would have to guess it is Debian or RHEL. Slack comes from a early point in the distro-hell compared to most of the newer ones. From way back when there were few serious distro around -- and not pissing off the hobbyist was probably the most important factor. Or should I say, very very very very very very far from what Ubuntu is today, and probably from a time period where running GNU/Linux would've made running 2.9BSD or 4.2BSD on a VAX, look a quick lunch instead of a weekend project ;-)
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Debian 5.0 was nice, but kept getting a kernel panic. Something about apt-get firmware-iwlwifi causes a kernel panic on the Intel 4965. Spent a few hours trying to get a fix, but it required a kernel upgrade and downgrading firmware to a 2007 version....just garbage. I'm back on SLAMD64 for now.
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Debian 5.0 has problems with Xorg and older monitors. You need to add the Modes line.
The kernel needs to be upgraded upon install of the system. Some modules won't work on the newer kernel. I've also had to make different versions of xorg.conf. Certain IGPs are not detected as they are in other distributions: Fedora, Suse or other OS's: FreeBSD. Besides that, the good thing about debian is you still have the modular build environment if you like. On GNU/debian KFreeBSD: These guys have made a lot of progress, why not ask some of them to work on the Linux emulation layer? |
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I thought you could relicense BSD software under GPL.
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Some BSD license revisions are compatible with older GPL versions.
Because of the GPLv3, the BSD community is moving away from using gcc in the base system. |
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The OpenBSD GCC maintainer posted a long lists of problems (misc@ I think?), but I'm unable to find it right now ... |
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