maybe frequently asked question, but always primordial for me. so I ask.

[guerrier-cachalot]

Hi.
I don't like bsd's ports. They are not enough automatized for me ... I just would like tip "bidule install toto" to installing toto, from the source, with my own compilation and dependance flags.
Like Gentoo do. Unfortunately gentoo is linux.Gentoo/freebsd isn't yet finalized.
Do someone know how to install Paludis or some other package manager like Conary etc, on freebsd ?
I saw no tutorial on that ... dunno even if it's possible ! Are "ports" inseparable from the rest of the system ?
In hope th have been clairly, from an new converted to the BSD's philosophy ...
And excuse me everybody if someone else than me already asked that, I haven't the time to read all others posts ...

[robbak]

Choose your poison:
portupgrade: portinstall [portname]
portmaster: portmaster -i [portname]
basic: cd /usr/ports/category/port; make install clean

what more are you looking for?

[guerrier-cachalot]

something like "install packagename" and nothing else !
I don't want to talk about ports, I don't like it and that's all.
Please just tell me how to change, and not with pkgsrc( already tested ).

[BSDfan666]

You're not being very fair.. and from the sounds of your posts, you're trolling these forums.

The ports tree for FreeBSD and the other BSD's is quite easy to use, if you do not like them for some bizarre reason.. you can use the precompiled binary packages that they make available to end users.

% sudo pkg_add -r packagename

If this isn't adequate, you can compile things manually... using official source tarballs.. but note that ported software typically includes patches that allow the program to compile or run properly.

My apologies that nothing more "simplistic" is available.. anything more simplistic would likely be telepathic or voice activated.

[roddierod]

portinstall packagename

[TerryP]

Originally Posted by BSDfan666

My apologies that nothing more "simplistic" is available.. anything more simplistic would likely be telepathic or voice activated.

Quoted For Truth

[mwatkins]

One thing I really hate about Linux is the package management. I almost always end up downloading the source (aka in Debian - apt-get source packagename) and dealing with the package sources in Debian is not the picnic it is in FreeBSD.

I'm sure plenty of people just want to apt-get postfix and be done with it; but last I looked the default Postfix package on Debian (and no doubt on most common Linux distributions) includes gobs of crap I don't want. Like MySQL.

FreeBSD Ports gives you nothing of that and is almost as simple as installing a precompiled package except that you get even more choice for the small cost of some compile time.

Too complicated for you? Probably you should use another OS.

[Oliver_H]

>includes gobs of crap I don't want.

Yep, but that's not the fault of apt-get/aptitude, it's the fault of the maintainer. But apt-get/aptitude has got enough disadvantages of its own.

[TerryP]

Originally Posted by mwatkins

FreeBSD Ports gives you nothing of that and is almost as simple as installing a precompiled package except that you get even more choice for the small cost of some compile time.

The only downside is having to keep things like pkg-config and autotools around that are only needed at build time; but that's more or less true of *any* source based method these days.

[windependence]

What's so hard about make install clean?

As mentioned, there are other options as well but all IMHO are easier and less messy than any form of Linux package management.

-Tim