Attempting to install Fvwm Crystal.

[wheelnut]

Greetings,

I haven't researched this as fully as I should. Colleagues have been pressuring me to get a move on. ..the world up-ending and all.. maybe somebody here can glance at this and just "know" the answer..

I'm trying to download and install the Crystal desktop for Open. The installation instructions -seem- pretty simple: Fvwm Crystal. Download, [apparently] move to a separate directory, make install.

I get:

make: don't know how to make install
Stop in /home/aragorn/crystal

This is as root. Same thing if as user. I am doing this from the workspace of fvwm. ..should I instead be doing it from the "black-screen with text" that you get if X isn't running? ..or is.. or do I need to install make? I see several options available:

cmake
gmake
imake
xmake..

..tempted to test those to see what happens..
did. cmake and gmake. no dice. different errors for both. might report them, but until I have some inkling of what I -should- be doing, seems pointless.

[jggimi]

OpenBSD isn't Linux. Lots of things are different. One of those differences is the `make` program, which is, on OpenBSD, the original 1988 BSD make program, still maintained. Most Linux distributions use GNU Make, which is a very different program.

You can install the GNU Make program with # pkg_add gmake. Once installed, you can use $ gmake install, and then you will then discover your next hurdle. And after that, the next one.

[wheelnut]

Originally Posted by jggimi

OpenBSD isn't Linux. Lots of things are different. One of those differences is the `make` program, which is, on OpenBSD, the original 1988 BSD make program, still maintained. Most Linux distributions use GNU Make, which is a very different program.

You can install the GNU Make program with # pkg_add gmake. Once installed, you can use $ gmake install, and then you will then discover your next hurdle. And after that, the next one.

Solid gold. Thanks! ..exactly the first thing I needed to know.. -_- ;-)

..posting this now so you see it, not being sure when I'll get back to this. Currently installing gnome, seeing as I'm realizing that Crystal requires a ton of dependencies, and I have no idea how many are available as packages, and how many I'll have to install as ports, or manually.. ..much exploration yet to do :-)

[wheelnut]

I will observe that the Gnome auto-installer appears to be out-of-date. following Solene's instructions gave an ambiguous dependency:

Ambiguous: choose dependency for libspectre-0.2.12p0:
a 0: ghostscript-10.04.0
1: ghostscript-10.04.0-gtk

..I crossed my fingers and selected the first option.

[jggimi]

If you're running -current, rather than -release, please be aware that the ports tree is a moving target -- there are updates committed to the tree on an add hoc basis; sometimes dozens daily. The "snapshot packages" which are built for popular architectures are a point-in-time from that tree, and, they won't be 100% in sync with any particular -current snapshot you might be running.


The -gtk flavor you declined to install integrates ghostscript with the Gnome desktop environment.

[wheelnut]

Originally Posted by jggimi

If you're running -current, rather than -release, please be aware that the ports tree is a moving target -- there are updates committed to the tree on an add hoc basis; sometimes dozens daily. The "snapshot packages" which are built for popular architectures are a point-in-time from that tree, and, they won't be 100% in sync with any particular -current snapshot you might be running.


The -gtk flavor you declined to install integrates ghostscript with the Gnome desktop environment.

Very true. Now that you remind me, I remember reading about this. I can, in all likelyhood, re-install with the other option. Cheers!

[wheelnut]

Originally Posted by jggimi

The -gtk flavor you declined to install integrates ghostscript with the Gnome desktop environment.

..I wanted to just observe that "declined to install" isn't quite right. That makes it sound like I decided to reject somebodies hard work. I'm here because I've decided to embrace the hard work of this particular community. No. I was offered two options, and didn't know which one to choose. The "gtk" option could have been something totally different. I figured the first, simpler option, was safest. That's it.

[jggimi]

Understood. My apologies; I should have used a different term.

[shep]

Ambiguous: choose dependency for libspectre-0.2.12p0:
a 0: ghostscript-10.04.0
1: ghostscript-10.04.0-gtk

You should be fine choosing either. I would expand on what @jggimi said about -gtk integrating into the gnome desktop to providing "gsx"; a Graphical User interface using gtk3+ toolkit:
https://linuxsoft.cern.ch/cern/cento...cript-gtk.html
You can choose ghostscript -gtk in Xfce4, Mate or OpenBox. Even a Qt based system or a minimal system like cwm.

In gnome, the evince document viewer has libspectre as a dependency and in this case "evince" and "gsx" essentially perform the same function.